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[廢村] 這座村莊已經廢掉，人們離開了

◆Farewell (09:58:59)

and then...ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

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棋子離開這個村莊了

◆Farewell (09:58:53)

you're welcomeヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:58:41)

ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

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RTK 離開這個村莊了

◆Farewell (09:58:37)

XDD

◆RTK (09:58:37)

先感謝你的晨間動腦運動XDD

◆RTK (09:58:20)

哈哈，太腦力激盪了，我去隔壁完一下好了XD

◆Farewell (09:58:14)

if no, i'll let go this village and you go create anotherヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:57:35)

do you want to continue discussing the issueヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ?

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阿嘎離開這個村莊了

◆Farewell (09:57:02)

yeah, so kill the crazyman ratherヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:56:38)

OK, thanx you very muchヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:56:38)

雙村騙有風險，因為你不知道剩下三隻哪隻才是村民...這樣就真的要機率決定了XD

◆Farewell (09:56:01)

that gains drawヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

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流歌離開這個村莊了

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脫了就別穿啊靠離開這個村莊了

◆Farewell (09:55:32)

another way is, if the wolf come out, then kill the crazymanヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆流歌 (09:55:17)

這裡沒有人是想玩的嗎？

◆Farewell (09:55:01)

so it need a stupid wolf, either
or both two vilgr come out wolvesヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:54:14)

rightヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:53:43)

如果決定投狼，那就是放狐勝
如果決定投狐，第二天狂人也早就知道狼是誰了，當然是狼勝

◆RTK (09:52:40)

Farewell那樣人側無望啦XD
第二天狼就可以CO了，5人1狼1狂，先認清就有兩票投狐，狐狸一定投狼1票，所以人側頂多決定誰贏

◆Farewell (09:52:02)

if the crazyman is sunstar, kill him insteadヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:51:23)

this situation need a stupid crazyman, lolヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:50:50)

也知道剩下兩狼，只是這兩隻狼混在包含判斷者在內的四個村民內

◆Farewell (09:50:26)

kill a wolf(atk a vilgr)kill the fox(atk a vilgr)
then there are 1 crazyman, the wolf vs the villagerヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:50:08)

不，現在是知狂知狐，狂人大家都知道了

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:49:33)

還要靈早死，狂沒法掌握狼數

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:49:15)

可能是真占狂人的狀態(?)
狂占太神，結果被當真占，所以狼認不出狂所以沒法PP

◆Farewell (09:49:13)

the new solution runs a little riskヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:48:43)

there should be one villager come to lead the gameヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:48:32)

我想聽聽新的解法:P

◆Farewell (09:47:27)

original: 7 survivors, 1 fox, 2 wolves, 1 crazyman, 3 villagers

◆RTK (09:47:05)

Farewell的方式應該是假設狼群什麼也不想，然後我(村民)半神權的狀態吧

◆Farewell (09:46:30)

A. 6 survivors: 1 fox, 2 wolves, 1 crazyman, and 2 villagers
B. 5 survivors, 1 fox, 1 crazyman, 1 wolf, 2 villagers
C. 6 survivors: 1 fox, 2 wolves, 3 villagers

◆RTK (09:45:58)

這有一個問題，狼側既然有這麼大優勢，就不會乖乖等死，而且狼還混在白單裡，其實廣意來說兩個村民很容易第一天被吊，變成6人2狼1狐1狂，變成A的狀況，接著狼咬狐，第二天就集火結束了

◆Farewell (09:45:46)

if the wolf attacks the fox, than the situation becomes question Bヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:44:20)

also Poetess's solution is one answer of the question A, tooヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:43:37)

that's right, but sometimes i see it as a way human can winヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:42:54)

the question A is desperateヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ
there are one answer is,
the fox and humans vote for the crazyman, and the wolves vote for the fox, and then it drawsヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:42:33)

這是唯一解法

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:42:15)

所以村側只能從三個未知取一個2/3

◆RTK (09:41:57)

喔喔，村CO狼嗎，這就是狂人的問題了:P

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:41:56)

也不能吊狐，吊狐之後夜咬任一個人頭兩人兩狼隔天就狼勝

◆Farewell (09:41:25)

rightヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:41:08)

但不能吊狂，人頭=狼頭狐在場，狐勝

◆Farewell (09:40:41)

but the other's 2/3 is not equivalent to your 2/3ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:40:23)

自己+狐+狂=已知
狼+狼+村=未知

狼狼村三人吊一當然是2/3

◆RTK (09:40:08)

(38:43) ◆棋子 if u execute the wolf first,there might be a problem that the wolf would let the fox win
狼側優勢最大，應該不會放吧，7人的話第一天早上一定得吊狼側勢力，很正常...

◆Farewell (09:39:57)

you can say chineseヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:39:40)

that's wolf's problem, not humanヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:39:14)

以我(村)的角度當然是2/3 難道我能吊我不成?

◆Farewell (09:38:59)

no, the villager can come out wolfヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:38:33)

◆詩人 not 2/3, it's 1/2
you didn't take the white ticketヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ(...........)

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:38:22)

2人1狐2狼是狐勝

◆RTK (09:38:12)

3人一狼一人一狂
已知狂人
那不就結束了嗎狂喊個PP 人側掰~

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:37:58)

如果是吊狂，是直接輸

◆RTK (09:37:26)

(35:55) ◆Farewell RTk, you forgot one thingヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ
:O ?

◆Farewell (09:37:25)

if there are just 3 suvivors
1 wolf, 1 crazyman, 1 villager
what is happenヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:37:09)

所以賭2/3應該是最理想的

◆RTK (09:37:02)

人側優勢：和狐群結盟、2票
狼側優勢：全知、夜晚不死、加狂人有集火3票
狐側優勢：雙方結盟、夜晚不死

◆Farewell (09:35:55)

RTk, you forgot one thingヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:35:26)

6人吊吊了狼就贏，吊了人就輸，沒有狼咬狐的考慮隔天4人取和

◆RTK (09:35:06)

因為7人很容易變成這樣
吊狼/咬人-吊狐/咬人-集火人側掰

◆Farewell (09:34:19)

so --> often
sorryヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:34:13)

第一天預測性的吊狼嗎...那也要保證夜晚狼要咬狐喔

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:34:09)

不如吊狼2/3機率多一倍

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:33:52)

因為吊狂期待狼咬狐的機率是1/3

◆Farewell (09:33:11)

so the new solution is begin with execute the wolf firstヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:32:14)

normally, we don't know who is exactly crazyman
but there so be two fake fortune teller, one is crazyman and the other is a wolfヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:32:07)

2/3的機率中狼，何不吊哉?

◆RTK (09:31:49)

讓我想想還有什麼新解法XDD

◆詩人折戟沉沙 (09:31:47)

2人1狂1狐2狼，那當然是吊狂狐以外的1人2狼

◆Farewell (09:30:52)

yes, that is the question, so i have the new best answerヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:30:14)

6人
1狐
2狼
3村

◆Farewell (09:30:13)

that is the old best answerヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:29:57)

狼的身分是混在村民中的，所以你並不知道狼是誰、人是誰。假設早上吊完狂人，來到晚上
，因此場上剩六人，我們假設狼知道狐狸是誰，因此他會咬狐狸，因為咬非狐就結束了。所以會以六

◆Farewell (09:29:52)

if the Night is not attack the fox, the game ties
if the Night is to attack,
Day, kill the fox
Night, attack one of the villager
Day, a wolf vs 2 villagersヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

詩人折戟沉沙來到村莊大廳

◆Farewell (09:28:34)

the fox and crazyman is knownヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:28:16)

the old best answer is
Day, kill the crazyman
Night, attack the fox
Day, kill one of the wolves and ask them to attack the fox againヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:27:04)

想請問狼一開始知道狐是誰嗎?

棋子來到村莊大廳

◆Farewell (09:26:17)

it has a old best answer and a new best answerヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:25:57)

the originalヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:25:46)

the original question is:
7 survivors, 1 fox, 2 wolves, 1 crazyman, 3 villagers
now you are a villager. what should you doヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:25:36)

你回答的best answer是哪一個的XD

◆Farewell (09:25:31)

yeah, if someone want to play, go aheadヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ
here is only for chattingヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:25:00)

original...maybe

◆流歌 (09:24:35)

外面開村了，想玩的過去吧。這裡貌似是聊天房。

◆Farewell (09:23:59)

which oneヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ
i have A B C and originalヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆RTK (09:22:56)

但是你的條件是知狂知狐，但是卻不知狼是誰，而首日如果要吊狂，表示沒狼出來喊PP

◆Farewell (09:22:50)

No, if the wolves play power, humans and fox's votes is more than wolves
so they can't do the power playヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

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銀座離開這個村莊了

◆銀座 (09:21:57)

ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ來去玩天翼

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涵離開這個村莊了

◆Farewell (09:21:34)

if they don't attack, than the game ties
but if they do so, kill the fox, and the game become 1 wolf vs 2 villagesヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆流歌 (09:21:33)

我去吧。

◆流歌 (09:21:02)

那，有人要出去開村嗎？

◆RTK (09:20:50)

(18:13) ◆Farewell the first one is,
execute the crazyman, force the wolves to attack the foxヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ
狼側不知道可以PP就算了...為什麼他們會願意連咬兩天狐呢? 村民威脅?

◆流歌 (09:20:38)

Roger that.

◆銀座 (09:20:38)

ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ突然看的懂了（咦咦咦

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風放放離開這個村莊了

◆Farewell (09:20:17)

here is only for chattingヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ
if you want to play, establish another villageヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

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射後不理離開這個村莊了

◆銀座 (09:19:55)

那不就要穿的跟北極熊一樣ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ潮好玩的（誤

◆流歌 (09:19:46)

10人開始這樣嗎XDDDD

◆Farewell (09:19:41)

and then talk to wolves, ask them to come out one and execute him,
with attacking the fox again at nightヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆銀座 (09:19:14)

ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ........

◆銀座 (09:19:01)

APP Where are you in ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:18:24)

Canadaヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:18:13)

the first one is,
execute the crazyman, force the wolves to attack the foxヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆流歌 (09:18:04)

Why？

◆銀座 (09:17:49)

APP=Farewell

◆流歌 (09:17:39)

APP是什麼？

◆銀座 (09:17:16)

ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉAPP現在在哪邊

◆Farewell (09:17:14)

the best answer has twoヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆流歌 (09:17:13)

Oh.

◆Farewell (09:16:26)

i come from taiwan...ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

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汝等是人是狼離開這個村莊了

◆流歌 (09:15:49)

Your English's pretty good. Where are you from?

◆RTK (09:15:32)

(14:48) ◆銀座腦洞時間 O
其實同義XD

◆銀座 (09:14:48)

◆RTK :O 早起動腦時間

腦洞時間 O

◆RTK (09:14:30)

:O 早起動腦時間

RTK 來到村莊大廳

◆銀座 (09:13:43)

（踢風放放的椅子

◆Farewell (09:13:27)

the original question is:
7 survivors, 1 fox, 2 wolves, 1 crazyman, 3 villagers
now you are a villager. what should you doヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆流歌 (09:13:12)

練習英文嘛XDDDD
還是你想聽法文？

◆銀座 (09:13:12)

APP以外的都不要打ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ（咦

◆銀座 (09:12:46)

ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ賣共英文啦

◆流歌 (09:12:30)

Really？

◆Farewell (09:12:17)

that's some old questionsヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆流歌 (09:11:41)

A&B&C

◆銀座 (09:11:36)

ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ（給，咦咦

◆Farewell (09:11:12)

which questionヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:10:48)

give me the chinese typer then i can say chineseヽ(◎∀◎#)ﾉ

◆流歌 (09:10:48)

Farewell, why do you ask this question？

◆銀座 (09:10:24)

ヽ(Q∀Q)ﾉ你怎麼都在英文（＜－英文超弱

◆流歌 (09:09:52)

Orz......之前狂包我白，最後他被吊死。

◆Farewell (09:09:29)

tell me the situation thenヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆銀座 (09:07:48)

ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉAPP

◆流歌 (09:07:42)

末狼應該跳嗎？

銀座來到村莊大廳

◆流歌 (09:06:33)

Why do you think so？

◆Farewell (09:05:25)

C has the best moves, but A i can't find itヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (09:04:46)

A can be compared to Cヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ
C: 6 survivors: 1 fox, 2 wolves, 3 villagers

◆rick (09:04:42)

消失

◆rick (09:04:38)

來去打信長~

◆rick (09:04:28)

雖然有腦殘狼@@

射後不理來到村莊大廳

◆rick (09:04:16)

http://diam.ngct.net/old_log.php?log_mode=on&room_no=33767

◆rick (09:03:32)

上次有類似的場子傑德是狐狸可是他和狼談條件談的很不錯

◆Farewell (09:03:25)

which one, A or Bヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆rick (09:02:24)

恩是的這種時候兩個村民必需都會玩一個亂完就沒望了

◆rick (09:01:43)

看配置就知道了吧@@

◆rick (09:01:33)

那只能和狐貍一起集火

◆rick (09:01:21)

如果認親

◆rick (09:01:15)

看村民判斷了

◆rick (09:01:06)

這時候只能拼平手

◆流歌 (09:01:00)

這麼早玩三十人......能滿嗎？

◆rick (09:00:56)

基本上如果狼知道狐狸那只要一個狼出來喊救GG了

◆rick (09:00:16)

不過...

◆rick (09:00:00)

狐狸在死之前會是狼測或者人側弱勢方很好的籌碼

◆rick (08:59:35)

只能要求3方到達最後平衡

汝等是人是狼來到村莊大廳

◆rick (08:59:23)

人側在正常玩法下沒有勝率

◆rick (08:59:09)

然後要求狼晚上咬狐狸不咬4人時一樣給狐狸

流歌來到村莊大廳

◆rick (08:58:49)

一隻狼出來換否則直接吊村民給狐狸勝

◆Farewell (08:58:35)

in generally, everyone should know who is fox and who is crazymanヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆rick (08:58:21)

可先先和狼談條件

◆rick (08:58:13)

沒用

◆rick (08:57:41)

我知道狂嗎?

◆rick (08:57:10)

喔喔那是狂阿

◆rick (08:56:57)

1狐狸2狼1暴民2村

◆rick (08:56:08)

算了我開翻譯機等我OAO

◆rick (08:55:42)

翻譯一下

◆rick (08:55:38)

villagers

◆Farewell (08:55:31)

if you are human, what should you doヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:55:11)

question Aヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆rick (08:55:09)

◆Farewell (08:55:02)

rick, help meヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:54:27)

remember of crazymanヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆rick (08:52:47)

早阿APP

rick 來到村莊大廳

◆Farewell (08:52:16)

i have the best answer of B, not Aヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:51:54)

A. 6 survivors: 1 fox, 2 wolves, 1 crazyman, and 2 villagers
B. 5 survivors, 1 fox, 1 crazyman, 1 wolf, 2 villagers
ヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:50:57)

wait, i say againヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:50:37)

but this is not shameful at all, thoughヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:50:04)

ヽ(◎∀◎#)ﾉ

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◆Farewell (08:49:18)

no, that the fox wins insteadヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:48:50)

i has the best answer of thisヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:47:55)

if you think that is too hard , try this:
5 survivors, 1 fox, 1 crazyman, 1 wolf, 2 villagers
you are one of the villagers. what should you doヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ?

◆Farewell (08:46:15)

what signalヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ?

◆Farewell (08:45:52)

yaヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

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◆Farewell (08:43:18)

i don't know the best answer , too
don't be afraid, just share your thoughtヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:42:17)

rightヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:41:26)

you know who is fox and who is crazymanヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:40:41)

at this desperate situation, what would you doヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:40:06)

Now you are a human, there are 6 survivor in the day
you know there are one fox, two wolves, one crazyman, and two just villagersヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:38:38)

may i have a questionヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ?

◆Farewell (08:38:27)

good morningヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:38:11)

sorry i has no chinese typer, but you can say chineseヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

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◆Farewell (08:37:47)

I can only write a little,too
you should be able to read my wordsヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:36:59)

That's OKヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

◆Farewell (08:35:36)

can you read englishヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ?

◆Farewell (08:35:05)

yoヽ(◎∀◎)ﾉ

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◆Farewell (08:29:22)

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◆Farewell (08:22:37)

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◆Farewell (08:20:04)

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